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« Reply #1 on: 06-30-2009, 14:43 »
Well, considering I never use TPB knowingly, it doesn't bother me.

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« Reply #2 on: 06-30-2009, 14:44 »
I think it's pretty funny.  I also think they're going to have a hard time making a napster out of TPB, since adding content restrictions to a peer network would be relatively difficult based on the current scheme (distribution list from the central server adds your name to a list of accepted peers for a certain program, propagation ensures that it will take a while for your name to make it around, and if you're removed, it will be a while before that catches up with you).  If they're looking to turn it into centralized distribution, it becomes nothing different from what's out there.  The name Peerialism reminds me of imperialism, and how it hopes to take over everything.  We'll see what happens.  

P2P is promising for many things, but content imperialism isn't really one of them yet.

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« Reply #3 on: 06-30-2009, 15:00 »
I know quite a few people will be unhappy with this, both as the fact that TPB is gone but also as a "blow" to P2P sharing. I however think that it's a good thing in some ways, TPB had a very cavalier and disrespectful attitude toward the law that hurt the image of all the people who used it. The way I believe torrents and other P2P will become accepted is if it's shown that responsible people use it and do things legally. If the "new and improved" Pirate Bay succeeds then we might see an end to the ISP bandwidth throttling. I don't think it will though, as generally no matter how you want to dress it up as you're gonna stick it to the evil corporations really if you download stuff like that you just want something for free. I'm curious as to whether the Pirate Bay people are gonna continue with bringing their case to the Swedish Human Rights court or if they just drop it now.

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« Reply #4 on: 06-30-2009, 15:19 »
People said mostly the same thing when napster went down.  ZOMGEES THE END OF FILE SHARING. D=

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« Reply #5 on: 06-30-2009, 15:24 »
Who's saying that?

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« Reply #6 on: 06-30-2009, 15:28 »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimatum_game

In theory, file sharing helps everyone.  People get their stuff quicker, companies don't have to spend so much money on infrastructure for web sharing, the only people it _kind of_ hurts is ISPs, and it is only because they oversell their service (their business model depends on this type of overselling, law of large numbers says that 99% of the users use 1% of the bandwidth).  In theory, if the user gets a benefit, and companies get a benefit, and the ISPs get to adjust their business plan so that they benefit (at the expense of the user, slightly), everyone should choose file sharing as another means of content distribution.

In practice, this is not a zero-sum game - people have to put a bit of work into the technology, ISPs have to figure out how to work it - so, unless there is a definite market for it, and it has been tested out thoroughly, and it passes the fair/unfair threshold (minimum 20% split for CBA), nothing is realized, people sit on their hands, etc.

I wonder if the cost of the equipment that TPB has is worth more than the sum that they were given to sell it.

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« Reply #7 on: 06-30-2009, 16:09 »
Who's saying that?
Nobody, I was being facetious.

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« Reply #8 on: 07-01-2009, 05:34 »
I'm pretty sure P2P won't die.

Though at least what they did here is much more moral than what Lokitorrents did (collect donations to 'fight' a court battle, which was money that was taken and run... actually, what ever happened to it?  I just know it didn't go to its intended purpose.)

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« Reply #9 on: 08-17-2009, 14:23 »
New study "P2P Not to Blame for Content Industry Failures Says EU"

http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/p2p_not_to_blame_for_content_industry_failures_says_eu.php

What do you guys think?

Additionally
Judge: Microsoft can't sell Word anymore

http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/archives/176223.asp

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« Reply #10 on: 08-17-2009, 15:11 »
Well, yeah, I don't buy things that don't come in physical form. Don't know why, but there's just something about buying files... it's probably some kind of instinct about trading something for nothing XD

I've bought a bunch of CDs after torrenting their contents and liking them, too, so if P2P was gone, I'd probably just buy even less stuff.

As for the Word bit, patenting opening XML files is retarded and it'll probably be overturned soon.

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« Reply #11 on: 08-17-2009, 15:46 »
Yeah, the suing party pretty much judge shopped. Not to mention Judges down here suck, we have a huge turnover rate on appeals. Mainly cause our judges are elected so they can't make controversial decisions or their voting base dumps them. :(

I'm waiting to see what the next big business model is, I never buy stuff online period.

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« Reply #12 on: 09-12-2009, 06:33 »
The last time I remember using TPB was last month! but it was only to get my hands on Clive Barker's Undying. If you look at what ISOhunt.com is doing, they make it seem like a "try the whole thing then buy it" gig. So it will literally be a long time before anything; the Media included, try to take down Torrent sites.
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