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Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 11-27-2011, 14:30
Been using this Positive Gaming Impact Dance Pad (http://www.positivegaming.com/index.php?id=36) for several months:

(http://www.positivegaming.com/assets/images/products/Impact_Soft/Impact_Soft_Pad_3_small.jpg)

Now it mysteriously broke, oddly. (Down arrow only reacting while both left and right arrow buttons are NOT pressed down)
Disassembling and messing with the chipset resulted in failure. Need new dance pad now and don't know what to take.
Those stainless steel ones are out of the price range for me.

Some pros/cons about the one from Positive Gaming:

If anyone can make a good suggestion for a promising successor to death from above I'd be thankful.

Review your dance pads also.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 11-27-2011, 23:35
Sock is tall and owns a Cobalt Flux, and it's quite a dreamer - quite near arcade performance.  I'm tall and I've owned a Red Octane ignition, and it works okay, but has a little more give than I would like.  One of the buttons died after about 6 months of play for me.  There's a couple of places out there that have these dense foam pads that are excellent and remarkably cheap.  My friend has one and paid like $60 for it.  I think this is what they have: http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Revolution-DDRgame-Density-Carrying-Playstation/dp/B000IBVBMC (http://www.amazon.com/Dance-Revolution-DDRgame-Density-Carrying-Playstation/dp/B000IBVBMC)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 11-28-2011, 07:29
Cobalt Flux = http://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Flux-Residential-PS2-Wii-PC/dp/B003JV1O4I/ref=sr_1_13?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1322481632&sr=1-13 (http://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Flux-Residential-PS2-Wii-PC/dp/B003JV1O4I/ref=sr_1_13?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1322481632&sr=1-13) ?
The few reviews confirm it's supposedly good. There are people claiming durability over 6 years despite daily use. Might be worth the extra digit. Seems like it is not being manufactured anymore. (?)
Apparantly still available here: http://www.discountddrpads.com/cobalt-flux-home-dance-p-2446.html?osCsid=faf6c56f5ed00316d76d0c093020f85d (http://www.discountddrpads.com/cobalt-flux-home-dance-p-2446.html?osCsid=faf6c56f5ed00316d76d0c093020f85d)
Now are they selling the real thing is the question. Also should expect A LOT from 300 bucks. The €-price is 330. Lawl.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 11-28-2011, 23:37
They are quite impressive.  But yeah, the dense foam pads are pretty amazing for the money.  They have an almost nicer feel than arcade - your feet spring back from them as you step.  The benefit of having metal pads = playing with shoes on, which I'm very fond of.  Oh, and the bar thing, but if you're Santotsuga, you don't need a bar, just an arm chair to pull off those 14s. :)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 11-29-2011, 13:06
I'd like to stay no-bar, for maximum challenge, exhaustion and blood pressure. Oh wait the third one is plain unhealthy; nevermind.
Bought a crappy 10€ one just to give myself a lecture on why higher price is justified. (12 months guarantee, but you need to pay
the return fee, TO HONG KONG (= you won't want to return it))
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 11-30-2011, 01:24
I have a RedOctane dense foam version in my closet that I was given for Christmas one year, and it worked really well actually. The only drawback I saw in it was that it still slid around on the carpet more than I wanted. My Cobalt is really amazing, but I basically bought it 3 months before I stopped playing DDR on the pad. It just sits next to my bookshelf now, looking somewhat dusty. I got the arcade panel mod for it too but I disliked how the buttons responded after that, so I removed the mod. Otherwise, it was extremely functional and hardly ever shifted but maybe 1-3 inches.

The cobalt also weighs a ton. Close to 50 lbs if I remember correctly. It is also not very transportable.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 11-30-2011, 13:13
I decided to stop playing on pad as soon as I can AA Vanessa from Anarchy III on Heavy. Simply dead exhausted 10 seconds into the 12th notes.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-01-2011, 12:11
Why stop at that point?  Or would you have enough stamina to start doing other things, like climbing buildings?
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-01-2011, 12:44
Because I won't ever reach that point. :p
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-05-2011, 12:47
By default, then, you will always be playing DDR? :D
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 12-05-2011, 20:10
That's the implication :)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-06-2011, 07:54
For as long as these legs can carry and ktern continues the Anarchy series. :p

On another note, air-shipment from Hong Kong is taking forever. :<
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-07-2011, 11:37
Air delivery by ⑨ - she gets tired every once in a while. :)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-08-2011, 14:58
I'm no good with Touhou jokes because I suck at bullet hell games (despite finding them awesome).
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-09-2011, 15:14
That's okay.  I probably would have said Miku if she had wings.  :D  I think delivery by Yukari would be the best, since it's instantaneous.  Then again, she's lazy...
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-10-2011, 13:56
There are PVs with winged Mikus though. :p
Shit's still not arriving. I'll start to get fat from all these Christmas cookies.
That reminds me: Christmas Miku! :D
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-13-2011, 18:09
Korisumiku!  I wonder how I can make Misha-claus. :3

And I know well about the Christmas cookie cutter hole.  It sucks you in and I'm like "my pants and heart hurt."
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-15-2011, 15:17
Bought another Impact Dance Pad because somehow it's the only decent pad than can be bought without either ridiculous risks or transportation fees. Believe the company is from Sweden, which isn't too far away.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-15-2011, 21:31
So did HK deliver badly?  Yay for new dancing styling!
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-19-2011, 18:00
It's just 10 bucks. I won't panically run after them, since this is first time internet delivery fails maximum.

On another note, it's ridiculous how quickly DDR improves stamina.
Boss on Parade -> D.
2 days later.
Boss on Parade -> A.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-28-2011, 10:33
Nice!

Also, merry after Christmas!  How was Santa this year?
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-28-2011, 13:36
Merry post-Christmas to you, too!

More utility gifts than fun gifts. New bed/mattress and moderate moneys. There have been grander Christmases but this is part of growing up. ☆⌒(>。≪)

I gifted Cats (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/03/Aybabtu.png) Cats (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cats_%28musical%29).
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 12-29-2011, 23:41
I got a bathrobe and Skyward Sword.  Some other clothes too.  Fun times.

HOW ARE YOU JELLICLES.  ALL YOUR MEMORIES ARE BELONG TO US.  YOU HAVE NO CHANCE TO SURVIVE MAKE YOUR NINE LIVES.  NYAN! NYAN! NYAN!
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-30-2011, 16:13
Got mail from customs duty that there is SOMETHING wrong with the dance pad package. (It actually came)
Now I gotta go there to find out what's wrong.

Also: That awkward moment you realize stepcharts you thought were only keyboardable are paddable.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 12-31-2011, 15:38
Tons of them are, yes :)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 12-31-2011, 22:45
Realize they're paaddable != Actually do opad them.
sorry i am drunlken.
HAPPy NEW YEAR..
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 01-02-2012, 20:50
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Druniken is the kind of dart drunken masters throw. :D
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 01-02-2012, 20:58
Bought new router because this "Speedport" thing is buggy and messes up connection randomly.

Customs duty guys want to see bill for professionally packaged Hong Kong dance pad.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 01-03-2012, 21:38
Professionally packaged + Hong Kong?  Not that I'm knocking the area, but they expect too much.

I need a new router too - if I push more than 50 mb over it, it resets and takes about 1.5 minutes to reset.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 01-03-2012, 21:46
I need a new heatsink/fan for my processor. My fan is causing very loud noises, and I know it's not the bearing because I oiled it the other day. I suppose when refund check hits, it's time to purchase new equipments.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 01-04-2012, 08:11
The package is the dance pad, crumpled-up in a sphere of duct tape.

New router was no DSL modem. I r faghat.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 01-05-2012, 13:47
Ah, duct tape, makes for a nice box, don't you say?

Mmm... fan time, good thing they don't cost all that much.

Aren't most DSL modems separate?  The way mine works, I plug into the uplink port of my router, and then it deals the damage to the users on a d20 scale.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 01-09-2012, 15:07
The thing we have has DSL-Modem integrated. It's common for those routers produced by internet providers. It's nicer to have in an independent third-party router which is capable of that.

Also got that Hong Kong dance pad finally. Doesn't look has crappy as I feared, but didn't test yet. Also came with CD with fancy installer in Chinese. I have no idea what it is but I found Stepmania 4.0 in one of the folders on it.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 01-28-2012, 21:08
Huh, not too shabby.  Can you get a DSL Modem by itself there?  I mean, one less thing to go wrong in the router, right?

How is the HK Dance Pad?  Nothing quite like ordering from halfway across the world; it's a guarantee that you'll never return it for the hassle factor that it takes.  Maybe we need to adopt that business model - cheap stuff which breaks half the time but doesn't matter because it's cheaper to just replace.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 01-30-2012, 10:17
Maybe we need to adopt that business model - cheap stuff which breaks half the time but doesn't matter because it's cheaper to just replace.

That's pretty much how much of the world operates these days anyway, D=.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 01-30-2012, 19:15
HK pad is decent actually. The reaction areas are pretty small however. You need to be a Stepmania Sniper to compete. Positive Gaming pad now has slits at places. Professional Duct Tape Repair incoming.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 03-06-2012, 10:32
Sniping is fun sometimes.  You get proper position!
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 03-16-2012, 16:25
Duct tape does convincing job however.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-10-2014, 03:28
So. Sock has a DDR Extreme cabinet now.  It's very nice.

(still icy on sock's account)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-12-2014, 17:48
Still doing work on it. I got it two months ago, ripped the pads apart, cleaned it all, bought new sensors (still need to get 2p sensors), replaced all the screws in the entire thing, etc.

Waiting a bit to get a BemaniPC for using a Minimaid to play OpenITG, etc.

(http://imasock.pestermom.com/Misc./Cab/DSC_0179.jpg)

Maybe a month's worth of playing after nothing for close to 3 years:

(http://imasock.pestermom.com/Misc./Cab/DSC_0273.jpg)

Proper pads and good sensors.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 07-13-2014, 10:03
fapfapfapfapfap

It's beautiful! Will you be playing doubles? That's something I've wanted to try~
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-13-2014, 22:13
Full combo! Niiiiice!

Doubles requires... two good pads. And determination. And shuffle experience. I tried a few rounds and the best I did was a B on .59 heavy (fun doubles chart). When there's crossovers in there things get funky.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-13-2014, 22:35
Will you be playing doubles? That's something I've wanted to try~

That's the intention. I could probably use the sensors currently in the 2p side but they're really old and the rubber has literally taken the shape of the channel they sit in, along with the L-brackets that hold them in place and actually trigger them. I'd rather just purchase a brand new set of 16 sensors for the 2p side, which will happen sometime in August. The 2p side is currently non-functional because I removed a lot of things to clean it all out and I am waiting for the new sensors to finish putting it back together.

Before:

(http://imasock.pestermom.com/Misc./Cab/DSC_0153.jpg)

After (about 6 hours):

(http://imasock.pestermom.com/Misc./Cab/DSC_0156.jpg)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-14-2014, 16:44
Quote
along with the L-brackets that hold them in place and actually trigger them.
TRIGGER WARNING D:

So dirty.  Amazing what a power washer can do. 
New Sig is best sig.  I gotta say, her right knee would take a beating.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-14-2014, 22:41
So dirty.  Amazing what a power washer can do.

That was done by hand.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 07-14-2014, 23:40
Amazing what a 'Sock washer can do.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 07-15-2014, 09:09
Amazing what a 'Sock washer can do.

Implement like buttons on posts. Now.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 07-15-2014, 15:38
Ask and ye shall receive.

Uhh, gotta style these better, but let's see if they work first.

EDIT: Nope, not yet. It's a work in progress? D:
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 07-15-2014, 16:05
soon.jpg
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-17-2014, 12:04
So dirty.  Amazing what a power washer can do.

That was done by hand.
Oh, wow.  I remember you saying something about soaking the hardware too to make it... sparkly shiny and not rusty.
Love :cc: Shine
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-17-2014, 16:11
Yeah, I removed all of the metal panels and strips from the pads and placed them in the giant red bucket in our garage. Then I poured a bunch of concentrated cleaning liquid in it, filled the rest up with water, and let them all soak. Then I scrubbed every piece with steel wool to clean them and remove a lot of the dirt and other junk like gum, rust, etc.

(http://imasock.pestermom.com/Misc./Cab/DSC_0170.jpg)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-23-2014, 12:11
Mmmmm.  ABC DDR Gum is the best flavor.  Goes along with k//'s stepchart.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 07-24-2014, 12:49
(https://i.imgur.com/IIolHUG.gif)

I was bored and got inspired somehow.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-25-2014, 12:05
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Perfect Attack Loli!
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-25-2014, 16:28
Perfect Attack Loli!
I wonder if my PA would get better if I had me one of these.

At the beginning of this week, I rewired the ground wiring in my cabinet (since Korean built cabinets have sucky / no ground wiring at all). I was hoping it would fix my speaker popping issues. Well, it only made it worse, but this was the result of the contributing problem being adjusted. It turned out to be a speaker wiring problem, or so I thought. It was really the L/R RCA jacks on the motherboard; the internal connectors weren't properly meeting due to the housing being broken and cracked. Bought new connectors online, pulled out the old ones and soldered in new ones, and now it works without issue again.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-25-2014, 16:50
Perfect Attack Loli!
I wonder if my PA would get better if I had me one of these.
There's only one way to find out.  GET ONE.  FOR SCIENCE. :3

I hope this is the last money you need to spend on maintaining the machine, Mr. Sock. :o
Glad it was something simple and traceable.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-25-2014, 17:07
Not for a while. I still need 2p sensors, LEDs for the pad lights to replace the neon, new pad -> cabinet connection box to replace the crappy one currently on there, a few more screws to finish off the 2p side with, etc.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-28-2014, 11:45
Machine = maintenance = JOB IS NEVER DONE
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 07-28-2014, 13:33
I hate things which need maintenance. I either keep things so nice and tidy they never need maintenance ever, or wait so long till maintenance can no longer be postponed. Sometimes I combine both procedures, leading to my room looking like the most orderly collection of dusted things in existence.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-28-2014, 15:19
I will consider it "finished" once I complete that list of things above. It won't be much to maintain once I actually finish everything on that list, which is relatively small and doesn't take much time, only money. The one thing in that list that will take more than 15 minutes to fix will be the LED mods, but I needed to get that done anyway since one of my neon bulbs under an arrow panel was broken (dad accidentally hit it while getting the last few stripped screws out for me while I was away at ACEN) and the inverter board in the 1p up arrow is dead.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-29-2014, 12:56
Do any of the connections require wire splicing, or are they for the most part all prewired/connected?  (e.g. the connection to the front part of the machine) :o
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-29-2014, 19:59
The front connector from pad to cabinet is a simple replacing of a tube and harness. Nothing needs to be altered, just need to unhook the wires, pull them out of the old tube, line them through the new tube, and screw the connecting tube/boxes back to the pad and machine after clipping the wire harnesses back together.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 07-31-2014, 14:14
Sounds reasonably simple. :O
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 07-31-2014, 16:44
Yeah it is. As I said before, the remaining things on my to-do list are relatively simple, minus the LED mod. They just cost $ rather than time, and I already have my budget planned out for a while and those things will just have to wait a bit.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 08-05-2014, 11:17
 ^3^
At least there are plans for moneys.  And backburners. 8)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: 多くの猫 on 09-28-2014, 03:49
Every once in a while, we'll do stupid stuff on Sock's machine. Like the "One Foot Challenge", which is exactly what it sounds like, you can only use one foot through the song unless there is a jump, but then you have to return the unused foot to the unused position before continuing. Or the "Sitting down Challenge", where you have to sit in the middle of the pad and attempt to complete the chart with your hands. Stupid stuff to mess around and have fun with it.

We came up with something new tonight, one person attempts playing the same chart on both pads... at the same time. The results are quite silly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRgh95Dz9Y&feature=youtu.be

I attempted a 2 on light, but decided to stop, after flinging myself around for only a minute. Then Sock got up there and passed. XD
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Imasock on 09-28-2014, 04:02
Every once in a while, we'll do stupid stuff on Sock's machine. Like the "One Foot Challenge", which is exactly what it sounds like, you can only use one foot through the song unless there is a jump, but then you have to return the unused foot to the unused position before continuing.
Still waiting for that Cartoon Heroes AAA single foot D=
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 09-28-2014, 04:05
Every once in a while, we'll do stupid stuff on Sock's machine. Like the "One Foot Challenge", which is exactly what it sounds like, you can only use one foot through the song unless there is a jump, but then you have to return the unused foot to the unused position before continuing. Or the "Sitting down Challenge", where you have to sit in the middle of the pad and attempt to complete the chart with your hands. Stupid stuff to mess around and have fun with it.

We came up with something new tonight, one person attempts playing the same chart on both pads... at the same time. The results are quite silly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQRgh95Dz9Y&feature=youtu.be

I attempted a 2 on light, but decided to stop, after flinging myself around for only a minute. Then Sock got up there and passed. XD

I've done lots of stuff like that on Pump. Try butt mode where you hit all the arrows with only your butt, it's pretty great.

(Recommended only for really easy charts.)
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: Silencer on 09-29-2014, 11:57
sit in the middle of the pad and attempt to complete the chart with your hands.
What. If I sat in the middle of the pad I'd already be pressing the buttons. ALL OF THEM.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 09-29-2014, 12:57
That butt play sounds like a good way to acquire hemorrhoids. xD  Pump it Butt!  Dance Dance Anaconda!
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 09-29-2014, 12:59
I imagine it would help to have a step chart in front of you so you can do plyometric pushups for the 2x jumps.
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: k//eternal on 09-29-2014, 15:11
sit in the middle of the pad and attempt to complete the chart with your hands.
What. If I sat in the middle of the pad I'd already be pressing the buttons. ALL OF THEM.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42KohD8lLtI
Title: DDR Equipment
Post by: icy is a fish again on 10-14-2015, 18:55
I just got this revelation.  Wow, that looks like it would be a fun chart that needs a swivel chair.  :aw)